tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post4434875824638036239..comments2023-09-30T08:55:59.719-07:00Comments on The Jimmy Z Show™: • THE JIMMY Z FRIDAY SHOW™Jzhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11312354389844092904noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-91227502759421267822011-05-02T19:07:07.415-07:002011-05-02T19:07:07.415-07:00"Amazing how fast the Libs have "flip-fl..."Amazing how fast the Libs have "flip-flopped" on the war on terror..."<br /><br />John, I'd REALLY appreciate it if you could explain to me how people on the left have flip flopped on the war on terror. Please explain what IRAQ had to do with the war on terror? We were totally on board and supported the Afghanistan invasion. You lost us when you side tracked us on the country that didn't have anything to do with 9/11 ....Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-41779787109825231012011-05-02T10:49:34.515-07:002011-05-02T10:49:34.515-07:00Amazing how fast the Libs have "flip-flopped&...Amazing how fast the Libs have "flip-flopped" on the war on terror...Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10728442451071515713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-53357952578166225382011-05-02T08:16:55.702-07:002011-05-02T08:16:55.702-07:00By the way , my left leaning democrat family helpe...By the way , my left leaning democrat family helped save this country and save your ass. Both of my grandfathers fought in WW2. <br /><br />They could not stand the corporate / bankster shills that was and is the GOP.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-58008549798835481042011-05-02T08:12:22.600-07:002011-05-02T08:12:22.600-07:00I do like you Jim bob. I don't agree with many...I do like you Jim bob. I don't agree with many of your political positions but I have learned things from you. I like how you keep an even temperament even when provoked. That's a trait I would do well to learn from.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-79295585412500673222011-05-02T07:10:10.903-07:002011-05-02T07:10:10.903-07:00Adam wrote another slew of comments - I will offer...Adam wrote another slew of comments - I will offer up a tidbit from each. The silliness was too intense for me to post all the comments Adam. I'm going to ask you to bring your comments down to size and instead of posting six (!), post about one. Here's some of his bits, pertaining to my last comment above:<br /><br />"I HAVE ALWAYS celebrated our military and applauded just wars. I was happy about the Afghanistan surge."<br /><br />"I believe in God I just don't think he's a cruel judgmental murderer like you do."<br /><br />"So you tell me how his speech was FLUBBED ?? I think he was VERY appropriate and thoughtful."<br /><br />"LIBERALS SUPPORTED BUSH GOING INTO Afghanistan jerk!"<br /><br />"When Bush was in Afghanistan and not diverting his attention to Iraq, his Poll numbers were SUPER HIGH."<br /><br />"Stop being ignorant ... Grow up man, seriously."<br /><br />"One of my biggest pet peeves is dishonesty and disingenuousness, of which I think you're being a bit of both."<br /><br />Liberals love the military now, and thank God that the military they love killed Osama bin Laden. Wow, that's impressive. But it's not true. Liberals do not appreciate anything about God, they do not appreciate the military and they wanted Obama the Commander in Chief to get the military OUT of the Middle East. That's all. Now they're celebrating a military operation? Hogwash. This is ALL about providing Obama with a much needed military victory for his resume. That's it.Jzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312354389844092904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-12358069685276230862011-05-01T22:37:23.655-07:002011-05-01T22:37:23.655-07:00Adam, since when do you people celebrate the milit...Adam, since when do you people celebrate the military? LOL Hypocrite! This was Bush's plan, and Obama is taking credit for it. He waited 65 minutes to show up and speak while they made his comments more 'poignant' and they rounded up some GWU students to 'spontaneously' combust. All orchestrated. If this were Bush the same students would be calling this murder. Obama flubbed it all - he had a great opportunity to be thoughtful and smart and instead he orchestrated bullshit.<br /><br />Typical. God has no part of your agenda. Do not call His name into this.Jzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312354389844092904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-54852183623596310662011-05-01T21:01:42.918-07:002011-05-01T21:01:42.918-07:00Go ahead and leave my Bin Laden comments in modera...Go ahead and leave my Bin Laden comments in moderation. . They're off topic I know .. I'm just giddy right now.<br />.. Obama is MY Guy after all and I believe for DAMN good reason.<br /><br />Not trying to be an ass but I'm going to rub it in a little ;)<br /><br />Someone elses appropriate comment on this: <br />"Well played President Obama, you did in 2 years what the GOP could not do in 8. Game, set match! You can now hang the "Mission Accomplished" banner and it will not just be for a photo op"<br /><br />... This has been has been the best week for any president in my life time .. First, the birth certificate was a WIN for Obama .. Now this "death certificate" is a win of historical proportions...<br /><br />GOD BLESS AMERICA.<br /><br />I don't believe in extreme nationalism on a daily basis, wrapping yourself in the flag all the time -- On special occasions however, USA USA USA ! It is definitely appropriate.<br /><br />Have a good night Jimmy ...I know I will.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-90839145266766435742011-05-01T20:43:04.300-07:002011-05-01T20:43:04.300-07:00I vehemently disagree. Iraq did not make us safer....I vehemently disagree. Iraq did not make us safer. If Bush had devoted the resources he spent on Iraq to Afghanistan/Pakistan in the first place, this would have happened a LONG time ago and been a BUSH victory. As it stands , It's an Obama victory. <br /><br />Bush NEVER devoted the kind of attention to Afghanistan that Obama did. If anything, I'll give you this: Obama saw how the Bush surge worked in Iraq and applied the same principles to Afghanistan which is what led to this victory.<br /><br />Anyway, that's my "liberal" take on it ;) ...Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-1332511584557706562011-05-01T20:29:49.888-07:002011-05-01T20:29:49.888-07:00FYI: The news that bin Laden is dead confirms Bush...FYI: The news that bin Laden is dead confirms Bush was right, and that the left, who was furious with Obama for continuing Bush's war, and Bush's agenda, was completely wrong. Obama was smart to continue with Bush's plan. :-)Jzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312354389844092904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-11812677202865039092011-05-01T19:50:32.222-07:002011-05-01T19:50:32.222-07:00"Chatter? How about that teacher broad who wr..."Chatter? How about that teacher broad who wrote the death threat email to Walker and the Republicans? The left is more dangerous."<br /><br />I'm not trying to disparage conservatism itself with my rant here. <br /><br />Not sure how you can simplify this into a "left is worse" because of a death threat ... Do you have any idea how many death threats originate from the type of unhinged soul we're talking about on PAN? Do you think the secret service is LYING when it has reported the amount of death threats toward the president is at an all time high? <br /><br />http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/10/new-report-find-secret-service-overwhelmed-by-increased-threats.php<br /><br />... Also bud , I kept a CLOSE EYE on the "chatter" during the bush years -- NEVER did I see calls for "armed uprising," "military coups" and the like at ALL like I'm seeing now ... <br /><br />Whatever though; Honestly not trying to get into a left vs right bickering match ;) I'll give this a rest tonight ... Goodnight dude.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-47837653425650530722011-05-01T19:46:45.924-07:002011-05-01T19:46:45.924-07:00I sent this to Darla because you're right you ...I sent this to Darla because you're right you know - 99% of the loonies are still there, and I got bumped for speaking the truth. PAN is an extremist whack job site now - no better than a 9-11 truther site. Lunatic central. I copied your paragraph and wrote the following:<br /><br />"You received a bitter taste of fascism yourself so you know what I'm talking about. You got shut down on PAN simply for dissenting opinion. People on there are able to suggest open warfare on liberals, violent uprising and constant suggestions of military coups/government overthrow and THEY REMAIN members in good standing. You strongly disagree with them on a single issue and you get censored, barred, banned. You are labeled an enemy for a "thought crime" ... Am I exaggerating? I don't think so."<br /><br />Darla, He's right you know - I spoke about rational thinking and reasonable analysis of what is going on in America, and Dee hated me for it. Those who post incendiary and right wing hysteria are still able to do so, and now with one less rational voice to temper their rants. Most importantly, if you think about it, I was attacked personally by most of them and not once did I respond in kind - and I was the one Dee had to get rid of.<br /><br />You have a huge problem now, worse than ever, because rational thinking is not what Dee is fostering. She wants to whip up the froth. Amazing.Jzhttp://thejimmyzshow.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-55508227036669904932011-05-01T19:39:07.123-07:002011-05-01T19:39:07.123-07:00"The relevance of these websites, and their i..."The relevance of these websites, and their impact for thoughtful conservatism will decrease proportion with their increase in wild eyed birther participants."<br /><br />I wish you were right about this but I don't see any evidence of it ... I see voices like yours being PUSHED AWAY and MARGINALIZED by the much louder and apparently more numerous extremist. I hope I'm wrong .... If I'm right, then your idea that this stuff is dangerous to conservatism is a vast underestimation. This could end up being VERY dangerous to humanity itself. <br /><br />I'd like you to prove me wrong here because this stuff worries me to no end. ... I pay attention to online communities but perhaps I'm limiting myself to places where this "extremism" is prevalent and not seeing the broader picture.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-78364490416794885812011-05-01T19:33:10.697-07:002011-05-01T19:33:10.697-07:00Chatter? How about that teacher broad who wrote th...Chatter? How about that teacher broad who wrote the death threat email to Walker and the Republicans? The left is more dangerous.Jzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312354389844092904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-39133928326957492762011-05-01T19:16:45.250-07:002011-05-01T19:16:45.250-07:00The current administration was irresponsible for r...The current administration was irresponsible for releasing the report a couple years ago talking about "homegrown right wing terrorism" --> all that did was galvanize and isolate the elements they were *truthfully* referring to. I hope they didn't release that report strictly for political purposes ... Either way I don't think they had devious intentions for calling this out -- after all , it was TRUE. I've seen the extremist chatter myself(I see it every day) and I know damn well the government is aware of a LOT more than you or I could even imagine. <br /><br />Are we at the point of no return? Can there be a return to sanity? <br /><br />God I hope so....Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-91462186744990519972011-05-01T18:57:50.461-07:002011-05-01T18:57:50.461-07:00You received a bitter taste of fascism yourself so...You received a bitter taste of fascism yourself so you know what I'm talking about. You got shut down on PAN simply for dissenting opinion. People on there are able to suggest open warfare on liberals, violent uprising and constant suggestions of military coups/government overthrow and THEY REMAIN members in good standing. You strongly disagree with them on a single issue and you get censored, barred, banned. You are labeled an enemy for a "thought crime" ... Am I exaggerating? I don't think so.<br /><br />The GOP realizes the monster THEY HAVE CREATED is hurting them -- Fear mongering and dangerous rhetoric that they've been using to manipulate their base is now coming back to haunt them. <br /><br />I think the last paragraph you'll probably disagree with -- You'll also point out that rhetoric on the left has pushed these people further away as well <-- to that I'll partially agree ....<br /><br />Just watch this play out -- You'll see I'm right as time goes on.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-33737984157091344012011-05-01T12:07:52.047-07:002011-05-01T12:07:52.047-07:00"neither of which apply to conservatism."..."neither of which apply to conservatism."<br /><br />Didn't say that ... Wasn't even trying to imply that. You admit the people on P.A.N. and similar sites are unhinged (which they most clearly are) .. What I posted applies to right wing extremism.<br /><br />Left wing extremism leads to communism. Right wing extremism leads to fascism.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-88871143303515990282011-05-01T11:13:53.695-07:002011-05-01T11:13:53.695-07:00neither of which apply to conservatism.neither of which apply to conservatism.Jzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312354389844092904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-61622043706080133202011-05-01T06:54:14.314-07:002011-05-01T06:54:14.314-07:00Decided against flooding your comments with the re...Decided against flooding your comments with the rest of the article .. here's a link to it though:<br /><br />http://www.rense.com/general37/fascism.htmAdamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-66216001131683191662011-05-01T06:51:32.851-07:002011-05-01T06:51:32.851-07:00Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regime...Dr. Lawrence Britt has examined the fascist regimes of Hitler (Germany), Mussolini (Italy), Franco (Spain), Suharto (Indonesia) and several Latin American regimes. Britt found 14 defining characteristics common to each:<br />1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism - Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.<br />2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights - Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-51907936459825063412011-05-01T06:50:51.835-07:002011-05-01T06:50:51.835-07:00I'm going to paste part of an article here whi...I'm going to paste part of an article here which examines characteristics of fascist regimes in history. <br /><br />I'm not suggesting any of this has anything to do with the conservative movement at large .. Though if the type of insane rhetoric exhibited on PAN keeps growing unchecked, this is what I believe it's leading to.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-38486195194826557902011-05-01T06:45:28.786-07:002011-05-01T06:45:28.786-07:00Good article Jimmy; I believe it's all in vain...Good article Jimmy; I believe it's all in vain though, I think these people are way too long gone. I sincerely hope you're right about these people not being the majority - <br /><br />Fox news has come up with a qualified expert who debunks the birthers - showing they are wrong about the BC being fake. Of course Fox News is IN ON the conspiracy and the expert is a liberal plant. <br /><br />Someone posted a reply suggesting "World intelligence agencies deem the BC to be fake" - Yet they post no source or links to back this up. Not that it matters, this comment had an immediate reply "This closes the matter - Obama needs to be prosecuted" <br /><br />There is another ongoing PAN discussion where quite a few people are suggesting commies in America should all be executed (By which they mean people like me or anyone who disagrees with them)--> there seems to be general agreement to that among the participants. They are talking about taking pictures of their opponents at rallies for "future use" ...<br /><br />This voting bloc honestly scares the CRAP out of me. There seems to be a parallel of this type of mindset to that of the people who gave Nazism it's rise to power. <br />Please tell me I'm wrong.Adamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07708792111503238648noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-18322704396155952722011-04-30T15:34:17.670-07:002011-04-30T15:34:17.670-07:00Adam, Dig this:
https://www.facebook.com/note.php...Adam, Dig this: <br />https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10150592161170078<br /><br />I sent this directly to Darla at PAN. I went to YOUR link and found that it was Darla who STARTED that crap with a video. I was writing my email to her and it morphed into a full blown column.Jzhttp://thejimmyzshow.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-41030649303943473542011-04-30T10:01:35.716-07:002011-04-30T10:01:35.716-07:00Adam, John: Thank you for your comments. For the m...Adam, John: Thank you for your comments. For the most part Adam your comments are thoughtful today. You must have had a good night's rest. :-)Jzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312354389844092904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-6823139707677503252011-04-30T09:59:48.912-07:002011-04-30T09:59:48.912-07:00You misunderstand God and creation. Unfortunately,...You misunderstand God and creation. Unfortunately, I don't have time to explain it to you.Jzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312354389844092904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7564286959506824206.post-43965031232466483262011-04-30T09:58:24.199-07:002011-04-30T09:58:24.199-07:00I have nothing to say on this. I pushed too hard, ...I have nothing to say on this. I pushed too hard, on purpose, knowing that Dee (an assistant director there) would flip her wig - and she did. Darla finally gave up and I was booted. The relevance of these websites, and their impact for thoughtful conservatism will decrease proportion with their increase in wild eyed birther participants. I have considered warning them again, but how many times should I contact Darla Dawald and warn her? At some point, I have to be moving on - and so that's what I've done. I could use their posts against them. These are maniacs, quite similar to the maniacs on the left that went ape s--t over George W. Bush. <br /><br />And so it goes. I can't read much on PAN because I cannot respond. It's now officially out of control. I think at one point Ms. Dawald was trying to do something about it, but Dee loves those people. Dee seems to think any crazy comment is better than no comments. <br /><br />If it were my site, I'd boot the lot of them.Jzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11312354389844092904noreply@blogger.com